Why Pornography is Evil – an (Un)Balanced View – Part 3
Posted on | May 7, 2009 | 13 Comments |
Translation: “You weren’t very good!”
7. Pornography is a replacement for sexual desire towards a partner.
“He watches pornography so much there’s none left for me!”
I guess this could be a problem. Well, if he really loved you, then he would save enough for you!
8. Pornography leads to rape and paedophilia
The two arguments in this case are (1) People inclined to rape are given ideas by watching violent pornography and (2) Normal people become rapists/paedophiles by watching pornography.
To tackle (2) first, this is simply a case of cause and effect as in point (6). Normal people look at normal porn. Paedophiles look at child porn, Rapists look at non-consensual rape porn (the hentai angle is something completely different that I discussed during fetish month in January) To say that normal people become interested in rape by watching rape porn is to ignore the majority of the consumers who are already interested in it. To coin a phrase, it’s the inquisitive mind that seeks it out, but an interested one that comes back for a second helping.
(1) is more difficult to defend. It could be argued that rapists would have offended anyway, even without a push, but then again it is difficult to peer into their minds and say for certain that watching violent rape DVDs didn’t at least pique their interest in carrying out the deed for real. Perhaps we can settle the matter by concluding that violent rape and child pornography – pornography depicting a real life crime – is evil. But that this does not necessarily imply that all porn is evil by default.
9. Pornography exposes underage children to sex and leads to underage sex and pregnancy/STDs
This one again is difficult to defend. It is true that by exposing underage kids to sex (which is now extremely easily accessible) there is in interest and then accordingly a danger associated with this an poor sexual education in schools. However, it could also be argued that the interest is there and would be just as bad, even without the pornography or gratuitous nudity around. I mean, look at the places where teenage pregnancy and STDs really are a problem – in Sub Saharan Africa. I’m sure that pornography isn’t really a problem there, but the men are still just as horny and in disregard/ignorance for their own/their partner’s health.
I know that there are a lot of cultural differences and that things are a lot more complex but it’s an interesting parallel. Also, it could be noted that Western teenage girls are still just as horny and up for sex even though they (mostly) don’t partake of the dodgy DVDs. Or that could just be peer pressure…
Nevertheless, it cannot be argued that the desire to have lots of unsafe sex is always there in the teenage years whether an example is being set by the media or not.
10. Pornography depicts women as sexual objects and exploits them.
Well, first of all, pornstars aren’t being exploited, most of them are in it for the money and the fact that they love having sex and they get paid more than their male counterparts. Whether a few women flaunting themselves in front of the camera demeans the gender as a whole could be argued differently.
It is true that pornography (as well as every other advert/page 3/TV show using scantily clad women) depicts women as sexual objects. And it is also true that some women would prefer for their gender not to be thought of just as sexual objects. Therefore, pornography obviously does not help these women in their crusade to be noticed as independent, intelligent beings in their own rights.
However, those women who are less serious about life I’m sure would be happy to be thought of as sexual objects every once in a while. The indisputable fact that most men lose control of their bodily functions around even moderately attractive women can be a helpful advantage in the workplace.
And if you really wanted to fix this problem then you wouldn’t just have to get rid of all the porn in the world (though that would be a start), but you’d also have to fix all the men’s brains as well! And with that major personality overhaul in place, I’m sure the world would be both an equal yet infinitely more boring place to live.
11. Pornography is boring
Yes. Yes it is.
Does this make it evil?
No. No it doesn’t.
Sorry for gif. But appropriate, I think…
12. Pornography makes my boyfriend want to do weird things when I just want to have normal sex
No, that’s just men. There are two solutions to this problem. (1) Get more broad minded and try something new (2) Go through as many boyfriends as you need to find one that doesn’t want to do anything kinky. Then pray that he doesn’t leave you for someone else who shows him the light.
Also, while I’m here, why is it that men are obsessed with putting their ding-a-ling up their girlfriend’s pooper, even though they’re terrified of putting anything into their own man-gina? Surely that’s pretty hypocritical… Is it a power thing? Whoever puts their vein-cane up the other person’s mucky motorway wins? Or is it that if you let anyone invade your precious butt-space and there’s even a hint of enjoyment you’re suddenly transformed into one of those GAY MONSTERS?
Remember: The only way you can prove you’re NOT gay is to have sex with a guy and not get hard.
And that’s the moral of the story.
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May 8th, 2009 @ 1:54 am
You are a complete dunce, or clueless. Time and time again studies of women in porn find women who have been sexually abused, have little other choice, or being exploited in any number of ways.
The fact that you enjoy masturbating to porn does not mean that they enjoy making it.
Congratulations on jumping the shark of average intelligence to complete idiocy.
May 8th, 2009 @ 9:20 pm
Congratulations on not showing your evidence and sources. You have joined the writing level of most 10th graders.
Keep it up, Yuribou!
May 8th, 2009 @ 10:15 pm
Well I was just going to ignore the troll, but since that ship has already sailed…
@Alexeon: I had almost the same bit ready, but the 10th grader bit is wonderful. I was going to say how using the term “jump the shark” to demean someone’s intelligence just degrades us, but really yours is just wonderful.
Anyway lady(?), let’s take your argument for another industry. Let’s say the textile industry, to be more specific the garment portion of it. In your view an entire industry should be dismantled due to any cases of abuse. I will admit that yes there are cases of abuse in the porn industry. But there is even more cases of abuse in the garment trade. I will provide sources for anyone who asks, but I think this is well known enough for me to go without. But then we go around naked and you would hate that too. And yes I am saying we could go without clothes for the most part, and I mean items such as shirts, pants and dresses not actual articles of attire that protect from the elements. Pieces that are just for morality and vanity. So don’t act like you are our moral superior.
May 9th, 2009 @ 5:39 am
Yuribou, normally I agree with most of your mindsets but the bit about women needing to be open-minded to keep a boyfriend was just stupid and really ticked me off. Possibly true, but stupid. For women not raised on a diet of porn or who aren’t fully comfortable with sex and their bodies (try most), kinky things in bed are terrifying.
That said I’m normally the one asking to be tied up etc, but I *was* raised on a steady diet of porn and Internets, and also blessed with a troublesome sex drive. Ladies like me make up the minority, not the majority. Obviously this is just empirical observation based on the women around me (relatives, friends etc), but it seems to hold true. And to my knowledge most of my conservative lady friends don’t have that much trouble holding down their men. Rather, it’s my friends who are freaky like me that seem to suffer from relationship woes more.
If you’re not a total dick you won’t care if your girlfriend won’t take it up the pooper true love etc etc etc.
Also, to other commentators- women’s rights in porn?
Let’s see, Kimberly Kane, Sasha Grey, Mandy Morbid… to name a few. These women are singlehandly doing more for the female gender than Twilight could ever dream of. Empowerment fuck yeah. Certainly there are plenty of women doing it to support their families or themselves and very clearly not enjoying it, but it should be noted that there are exceptions. Women get abused in one way or another in most fields anyway.
May 9th, 2009 @ 8:15 am
I took the comment about kinky stuff as a half-serious joke implying that people should be more open minded but not necessarily saying that if you arent, you should break up with the other person.
@Jaden, gee, thanks. ^^
May 11th, 2009 @ 3:53 am
Dude, were you trying to make a joke in 12? Not funny.
May 11th, 2009 @ 7:02 am
Wow, this has certainly caused the discussion/argument that it was expected to, huh? And I think what I’m about to say will cause yet more…
I’ll begin by mentioning gay porn. And I mean male gay porn. Some of my closest friends are gay and they do not try to hide it. I’ve been taken to the gay district many times and even been taken to Asia’s biggest gay club. I’m not gay myself (going through all that and _still_ not finding men sexually arousing…) so when I see pictures of well-toned men in Speedo’s tongue-twisting with another guy, I have to look away. (They’ve even openly told me that they fancy me which is completely flattering when you know they’re serious, I tell you). But do I feel degraded and made a sexual object by seeing these images? No. My friends can masturbate to all the boy-love they want (and I know they do) and I don’t care. That is porn, this is life, and they are separate.
Meanwhile, here I am, working at a high school. When I go to bed I usually masturbate to some hentai manga, but you know what, I’m NOT preying on all those schoolgirls because I have CONTROL. I’m actually kind of insulted that some women believe all men to be the same ravenous beast. There are definitely men out there that do prey on teenagers and work colleagues, etc, but the majority of men aren’t like that. AND WE STILL WATCH PORN.
Now, I must admit that I would like a girlfriend who would be a bit open to a few kinky activities. As yuribou said most men want a bit more out of sex anyway, regardless of what they’ve watched and as Caitlin said the number of women who are willing to are in the minority. Relationships are all about respecting your significant other. If your man truly loves you, he would respect your feelings about not sticking in your pooper. If he’s forcing you, then you’ve got a problem and that problem is not Porn.
Now this’ll be controversial…
Let’s take a look at the subject which started all this. Jacqui Smith and her hubbie. Hey, is Jacqui letting this go to her head? No, she’s getting on with her job (albeit how good a job that is, is another matter…) Did Margaret Thatcher worry about the effects of porn all day or did she get on with running a country? And Hilary Clinton? These women are in powerful positions not because they worry about the position of women all day but because they worked against this unfairly male-centred world.
As for the other points:
1) Your god says “no”? Well, MY god says “yes” (He’s the man from Del Monte). What’re you gonna do now?
2 & 3) To those who are worried about their failing relationships, think about all those people who don’t have a partner and use porn to relieve that…
4) Where were you hiding when the hippies were making love in the fields?
5) Yes, our base instincts. I’m afraid to tell you, but we are actually animals…
6) Okay this is true. It distorts you’re sense of reality – makes people shallow as they search for their perfect partner.
7) yuribou got it bang on.
8) See above – what I said about CONTROL. If a man is gonna do those terrible acts then he’ll do them porn or no.
9 & 10) Now when porn actually uses or abuses women (or men!) then it is disgusting, and it really shouldn’t be easily accessible to children. But instead of saying “ban porn!” or “keep porn!”, maybe we should be saying “improve the moderation of porn!”
11) Yep. So is doing taxes. And they are fucking EVIL.
12) See above. And for the record, I’d be quite happy for my partner to wield a strap-on.
Now, argue.
May 11th, 2009 @ 10:18 am
Hmm, I take back 12 then. It was meant light-heartedly, but perhaps not worded as such… But the PS underneath is meant whole-heartedly
May 12th, 2009 @ 4:09 am
Really, the entire “debate” is just people looking to blame something other than themselves isn’t it?
May 12th, 2009 @ 7:37 am
Blame themselves for what? If you mean at large, then yes, parents blaming others when they should be taking care of their kids themselves.
If you meant us here… well, I dont know what you mean. :D
May 13th, 2009 @ 2:45 am
Blame ourselves for what?
Just because I expose my loli niece to my copious amounts of yuri media, that doesn’t mean anything.
May 16th, 2009 @ 12:24 am
Good post.
The only thing I disagree about is 11.) porn is boring.
What kind of porn are you watching? Hopefully not webcams or amateur home videos.
May 23rd, 2010 @ 1:58 pm
The fact that whatching porn leads to rape and peadophilia is kinda wrong.
Its been revealed that many church priests (who do not whatch and porn and have to bury all there sexual thoughts) have become peadophiles.